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February 28th, 2009 at 12:02 pm
It’s a myth that vegetarians and vegans can’t get b12 from their diet. Cows, for example, get the bacteria off the dirt in the grass. Scientists have also recently found that fish get b12 from a certain type of algea in the ocean. Years ago, when people grew their own veggies, you could get vitamin b12 off excess dirt residue. These days, vegetables are cleaned very well, so the dirt goes away. unless you grow your own vegetables, or you can get your hands on this algea, you need a supplment.
March 3rd, 2009 at 6:37 am
rafferoico – Don’t let your irrational religion interfere with good sense.
Ruminants can absorb the B-12 made by bacteria in their guts. Humans, as omnivores cannot.
Now you can pretend that you (and your daughter) are part of the magical population that can live without B-12. But you are just pretending, and that kind of fantasy can hurt your health.
All humans must either eat meat, poo, B-12 enriched foods or take B-12 supplements. Otherwise you risk pernicious anemia and death.
March 5th, 2009 at 1:05 am
Humans are omnivores.
“Documenting the diet in ancient human populations through stable isotope analysis of hair” DOI 10.1098/rstb.1999.0360
March 7th, 2009 at 9:31 am
rafferoico – Then here is the logic. We will see if it will penetrate your skull this time.
EVERY vegetarian species on the PLANET can absorb the B-12 produced by their own enteric bacteria. No carnivore (that we know of) absorbs their enteric B-12. They get their B-12 from the meat they eat.
Humans cannot absorb the B-12 in their guts because it is produced by enteric bacteria in the colon, and all our B-12 absorption is done in the terminal ileum.
We are omnivorous. Like it or not.
March 10th, 2009 at 1:11 pm
First of all: nothing far than me than “religion”. I just follow LOGIC: maybe it is the same “fantasy” of human rights despite the “law of the stronger”. I mean,e.g.: if your death is useful for me and for my health I have the right to kill you. Beyond this, out of the artificial outline conception of “races” and “species”(?) can you tell me where this right to overwhelm start? Intelligence? Human shape? I could go on with similar questions…
March 11th, 2009 at 1:52 pm
rafferoico – Don’t let your irrational religion interfere with good sense.
Ruminants can absorb the B-12 made by bacteria in their guts. Humans, as omnivores cannot.
Now you can pretend that you (and your daughter) are part of the magical population that can live without B-12. But you are just pretending, and that kind of fantasy can hurt your health.
All humans must either eat meat, poo, B-12 enriched foods or take B-12 supplements. Otherwise you risk pernicious anemia and death.
March 13th, 2009 at 6:07 am
Let me defend this “omnivorous” guy: until he write here he give the chance of talk about a matter where there are no teachers. His words and crippling arguments give the chance to demonstrate the sense of the vegan choice…
March 14th, 2009 at 5:45 am
Whether or not B12 I’ll try to avoid sufference as much as I can. To point on B12 in order to justify the daily, shameful sad holocaust bring to hypocrisy (sorry for english) or to immorality. At least B12 can found in a less natural way in pharmacy.
March 17th, 2009 at 3:56 am
EVERY vegetarian species on the PLANET can absorb the B-12 produced by their own enteric bacteria. No carnivore (that we know of) absorbs their enteric B-12. They get their B-12 from the meat they eat.
Humans cannot absorb the B-12 in their guts because it is produced by enteric bacteria in the colon, and all our B-12 absorption is done in the terminal ileum.
We are “designed” to be omnivorous. Like it or not.
March 17th, 2009 at 5:47 am
EVERY vegetarian species on the PLANET can absorb the B-12 produced by their own enteric bacteria. No carnivore (that we know of) absorbs their enteric B-12. They get their B-12 from the meat they eat.
Humans cannot absorb the B-12 in their guts because it is produced by enteric bacteria in the colon, and all our B-12 absorption is done in the terminal ileum.
We are “designed” to be omnivorous. Like it or not.
March 19th, 2009 at 4:28 pm
EVERY vegetarian species on the PLANET can absorb the B-12 produced by their own enteric bacteria. No carnivore (that we know of) absorbs their enteric B-12. They get their B-12 from the meat they eat.
Humans cannot absorb the B-12 in their guts because it is produced by enteric bacteria in the colon, and all our B-12 absorption is done in the terminal ileum.
We are “designed” to be omnivorous. Like it or not.
March 21st, 2009 at 9:06 am
The only explanation is you are getting b-12 from enriched foods, such as enriched flour, bread, cereals, or supplements.
Now quit being an asshat. Yours is the kind of attitude that causes vegans and vegetarians in general problems.
Ignorance coupled with a loud voice… very unattractive.
March 23rd, 2009 at 11:56 am
There is just a lot of extreme talk going on. Some of it is untruthful, and that reduces its credibility.
A few points:
Historically, archeologicaly & scientifically, humans (H.S.) are omnivores. In the modern world, we CAN survive and prosper as vegans with b-12 supplementation.
But the health problems have their root in overeating, not omnivore vs. vegan.
-David (internal med)
March 25th, 2009 at 3:08 am
wow people like “conotoxin” make my blood boil until i get a headache. now i will avoid ytube comments for weeks because of your nescient view of veganism. if you hate vegans so much why are you typing these comments, why are you watching these great videos just to upset yourself like i am right now. whats the point of this?instead of mocking vegans why dont you get a life and do something instead of harrasing people in cyber space to “get off” by it somehow…trouble finding someone? jerk
March 27th, 2009 at 1:00 pm
please watch Meet Your Meat and then try saying that again.
Honestly people, think about it. Would you scream with pleasure if somebody was murdering you? If so, you’re more sick than I thought.
March 30th, 2009 at 11:20 pm
There is just a lot of extreme talk going on. Some of it is untruthful, and that reduces its credibility.
A few points:
Historically, archeologicaly & scientifically, humans (H.S.) are omnivores. In the modern world, we CAN survive and prosper as vegans with b-12 supplementation.
But the health problems have their root in overeating, not omnivore vs. vegan.
-David (internal med)
April 2nd, 2009 at 9:12 pm
The only explanation is you are getting b-12 from enriched foods, such as enriched flour, bread, cereals, or supplements.
Now quit being an asshat. Yours is the kind of attitude that causes vegans and vegetarians in general problems.
Ignorance coupled with a loud voice… very unattractive.
April 4th, 2009 at 11:25 pm
Please, tell me how long I have still wait my ANEMIA (ahahaha!!!) and death (that’s sure for everybody)… I’m veg since 1992, now I’m 41… Call it magical or fantasy (oh yeah I got superpowers! ahahaha!!!) I’ve spoken about B12 “SOURCE”. Ending: 1 cow eat 12 people food: if every human MUST eat meat it mean a world with very few people and much sick cows (take a look out there). Save you and your health: forget your necrophagy
April 7th, 2009 at 2:22 am
rafferoico – Don’t let your irrational religion interfere with good sense.
Ruminants can absorb the B-12 made by bacteria in their guts. Humans, as omnivores cannot.
Now you can pretend that you (and your daughter) are part of the magical population that can live without B-12. But you are just pretending, and that kind of fantasy can hurt your health.
All humans must either eat meat, poo, B-12 enriched foods or take B-12 supplements. Otherwise you risk pernicious anemia and death.
April 8th, 2009 at 9:42 am
Where animals find B12?????? Wich animals??? Why not dogs, cats, RATS??? Consult Mr Kellogg’s memories please… My daughter eat all B group vitamines including B12 source. Never seen a doctor until now (17months). Her mother is veg as well. (Not internal med but daily experience!).
April 9th, 2009 at 6:20 am
HUUUUUUUGE MISTAKE!!!!!!
April 10th, 2009 at 8:17 pm
Oh it is still funny! Don’t tell me “sense of humor” is an essential nutrient found only in meat!
There is just a lot of extreme talk going on. Some of it is untruthful, and that reduces its credibility.
A few points:
Historically, archeologicaly & scientifically, humans (H.S.) are omnivores. In the modern world, we CAN survive and prosper as vegans with b-12 supplementation.
But the health problems have their root in overeating, not omnivore vs. vegan.
-David (internal med)
April 12th, 2009 at 6:56 pm
If it wasn’t so sad subject, It could be funny comment….
April 15th, 2009 at 3:06 am
It is EVIL to eat poor imobile defenseless PLANTS! They cannot flee and have no voice! All those poor plants being force grown, force bred, and yanked from mother earth even as they reach maturity!
The meat eater is the defender of the plant! Speaking for those who cannot speak for themselves! Defending the weak from the… mobile!
END SOY SLAUGHTER!
EAT MEAT SAVE A BEET!
April 17th, 2009 at 12:00 pm
this may seem weird but, sperm is made out of like 99% protein hehehe